ASP Rochelle Chan denies allegations made by Alvorine Burgess

The Senate Select Inquiry continued today into the Auditor General’s report on Visa, Passport, and Nationality sections of the Immigration Department during the period 2011 to 2013.  Assistant Superintendent of Police stationed at the Hattieville police station, Rochelle Chan, made his appearance today. Chan is the brother –in- law of Elvin Penner. Chan’s name was not mentioned in the Auditor General’s report but a few weeks ago, Alvorine Burgess testified before the Senate Inquiry  and said that it was Rochelle Chan who introduced her into the business of processing visa applications for money. Burgess gave the Senate Inquiry a detailed description of how she met Chan and how Chan asked her if she wanted to make money in this business that he was already in with his brother-in-law, Elvin Penner. She told the Commission that Chan explained how the process worked and all she had to do was get a Minister to sign the recommendations. She said it was Chan who paid her for the approved visas and she would pay Minister Castro with funds provided by Chan. Chan denied everything today saying that he didn’t even know Alvarine Burgess. He met her at a bar about 2 times and knew her only as “Cosa”.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: I’m trying to get an understanding of how you knew her. You said you met her while socializing. Did you have a conversation with her? Or did you just meet and that was it?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: It was not a direct meeting or met. It was just socializing, she came around seeking alms.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Alms? Seeking alms you said?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That’s right.vlcsnap-00010

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: So she was asking for money?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That’s right.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: How long ago was this?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: I can’t remember the time but I remember the place.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Where was this?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: This was at a bar. 250 bar or $2 Bar at the round-a-bout.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Okay so you were socializing and then you met her and she was asking for money, that was one occasion. You said you met her on another occasion?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That’s right.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: In the same type of circumstances?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: Same type of circumstances.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: I just want to know how you know her because she has made some very serious statements to this committee which alleged serious matters against you. Are you aware of that?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: Not actually.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Okay. When Miss Burgess, who you know as Kosa was here, she described a process in which she participated to pay according her to pay Minister Edmond Castro 2,000 dollars per visa recommendation. She admitted that she did so and she took the money to Minister Castro and when she was asked when I asked her who she got the 2,000 dollars from, who she got the money from she said she got it from Rochelle Chan who is a police man and I believe that she was referring to youvlcsnap-00007

And what about all that money that Burgess claims she received from Chan; totaling tens of thousands of dollars. He denied that too, saying that the only money he ever gave Burgess was $20 when she was begging for “alms”.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: She also said that she would get the money from you as well as the documents which she would then take to Minister Castro.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: The only money she got from was 20 dollars that I gave her once.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: This was 20 dollars when?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: When I met her the first time.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: In the circumstance you described?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That’s right.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: She also said that when she would retrieve the final product that she was paying to get the visa approved and when she would retrieve the visas and the passport that she would then deliver them to you.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That’s a lie also.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Am I to understand that you are saying that entire process which she described, you were delivering money to her, she was retrieving passports and delivering it back to you is not true?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That is not true.vlcsnap-00006

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: She also said that you approached her initially when you met. She indicated that you were introduced by her cousin, Manuel Hill who was a police man at the time, I’m not sure if he still is.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That is not true. I cannot say that I wasn’t with Manuel Hill at the time when we met, but in regards to having an introduction; that is not true.  

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Manuel Hill was at the place you were socializing that you desrbied earlier?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: Yes I believe so he was.

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: She also said that you were the one that approached her and that you indicated that you were involved in a scheme which could make her some money since she needed to make money for her ailing husband and that you indicated to her that this scheme had been ongoing previously with you through Minister Penner.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That Is not true.

But why would Burgess make up an entire story with Chan as the main character? That question was put to Chan and he gave his opinion on the matter.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: I wouldn’t know why she would do such a thing, maybe she’s been influenced by some entities. Her character is what’s the word I want to use, ineptitude, and working for sycophants

Aldo Salazar, Chairman, Senate Select Committee: Why would she pick you, out of all of the – if she wanted to choose a police man then, out of all the policemen, why would she pick on you after just a chance meeting?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: Maybe because I’m Mr. Penner’s brother in law.vlcsnap-00009

While Chan denied everything said by Burgess, Senator Elena Smith said she was having difficulty believing Chan’s denial.

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: Miss Burgess explained to us that you would pick her up at her sister’s home in Belmopan. Is that so?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That’s a lie Miss Smith.

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: Are you saying that the entire testimony that Ms. Burgess gave regarding your involvement with her is a lie?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That is right.

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: I find it difficult to believe Mr. Chan that we would get so much detail regarding a relationship with a person and when I say that I don’t mean in any other way except – let’s put a working relationship; I’ll put it that way for now. According to Ms. Burgess you’ve met several times at different places, she’s worked with you and you deny all of that.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That is right.

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: I find that very difficult to believe. Is it possible that the cause of your relationship with Minister Penner, you are his brother in law you said.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: That is right.

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: That what Ms. Burgess mentioned here could be possible?

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: I said what Ms. Burgess said to the senate select is false, possibilities can go from here to there. It can be possible that maybe you were involved with Ms. Burgess Ms. Smith so to tell me or trying to throw a cast net upon me on my character shouldn’t be so. I feel like I am a victim of certain circumstances, I’m here and I believe somewhere constitutionally my rights have been; what can I say, I leave it like that.

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: Can we make it quite clear Mr. Chan, there is a reason why you are where you are and a reason why I am where I am and so do not associate me with Ms. Burgess in any way.

Rochelle Chan, Officer Commanding Hattieville Formation: You said my opinion and you’re putting it to me senator.vlcsnap-00010

Elena Smith, Senator, Senate Select Committee: I am asking the questions, you do not associate me with anybody, you are here under oath Mr. Chan, you swore under oath and you’re making it very difficult for us to believe what you are telling us today because you want to be casting aspersions on us but you are the one in the hot seat not me.

Having denied everything, there were not many questions for ASP Chan.

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